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37 Will all the 144000 firstfruits who are redeemed from among humans be transformed?

by aparke 2023. 12. 24.
Will all the 144000 firstfruits who are redeemed from among men be transformed?
Premise1: We see the 144000 in Revelation 7[1] which are sealed at the time of the 6th seal, as the 144000 firstfruits which are the last firstfruits.[2] [The sealed 144000=144000 firstfruits who are redeemed from among men]
Premise2: The 1st half of the 70th week begins when the 6th trumpet is sounded and the beast comes up from the sea.[3] Therefore, the time of the 6th seal is close to the 1st half of the 70th week.
Premise3: Separate from the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit to be nourished in the prepared place for the 1st half of the 70th week[4], the 144000 firstfruits who are sealed just before the 1st half of the 70th week, are regarded as the 2 witnesses to prophesy again for the 1st half of the 70th week. [144000=2 witnesses]
Rev.11:2 Leave out the court which is outside of the temple, and don't measure it, for it has been given to the gentiles. They will tread the holy city under foot for forty-two months.
Rev.11:3 I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev.11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands, standing before the Lord of the earth.
Rev.11:5 If anyone desires to harm them, fire proceeds out of their mouth and devours their enemies. If anyone desires to harm them, he must be killed in this way.
Rev.11:6 These have the power to shut up the sky, that it may not rain during the days of their prophecy. They have power over the waters, to turn them into blood, and to strike the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.
Rev.11:7 When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.
Rev.11:8 Their dead bodies will be in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Rev.11:9 From among the peoples, tribes, languages, and nations people will look at their dead bodies for three and a half days, and will not allow their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
Rev.11:10 Those who dwell on the earth rejoice over them, and they will be glad. They will give gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.
Rev.11:11 After the three and a half days, the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. Great fear fell on those who saw them.
Rev.11:12 I heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here!" They went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies saw them.
View 1: All the 144000 will be transformed View 2: All the 144000 will be slaughtered and be resurrected.
 The 144000 are the firstfruits who are redeemed out of the earth. Only these are the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men.[5] Those who have been taken apart for transformation are the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men. The meaning of being transformed is expressed as being redeemed out of the earth.
 The 144000 are the sealed ones.[6] Those who are sealed are never harmed.[7] We must die to be resurrected, but we cannot die without being harmed. So the 144000 will all be transformed.
 The 144000, the 2 witnesses, proclaim the eternal gospel by smashing the armies of the beast for the 1st half of the 70th week. This means that even the armies of the superpower that rules the world cannot kill them.
The 2 witnesses, the 144000 firstfruits who proclaimed the eternal gospel and smashed the beast armies for the 1260 days of the 1st half of the 70th week, that is, for the 42 months of the beast's reign, are killed by the beast near the end of the 1st half of the 70th week. This is because, around the end of the 1st half of the 70th week, around the half point of the 70th week, the son of destruction, the beast that came up out of the abyss will make war with the 2 witnesses, and overcome them, and kill them.
 Obviously, the 2 witnesses will proclaim the eternal gospel by smashing the armies of the beast for the 1st half of the 70th week. But also the 2 witnesses will die at the end of the 1st half of the 70th week, around the half point of the 70th week. The death and resurrection of the 2 witnesses are clearly stated in the above words, but it cannot be said that the 2 witnesses will not die and will be transformed.
View 3: Some will be resurrected and some will be transformed
 For the 1st half of the 70th week, Satan will try to kill anyone who does not worship the beast.[8] Therefore, the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit and the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men, who do not spare their lives to worship only God[9] for the 1st half of the 70th week, during the reign of the beast, all are martyr witnesses.[10] Therefore, both will be redeemed from the earthen perishable body[11] and put on the heavenly incorruptible body[12], the spiritual body.[13] Whether die and be resurrected or survive and be transformed, all of these will be clothed with a spiritual body.
 The 2 witnesses are a symbol of the 144000 who will eat the little book and proclaim the eternal gospel for the 1st half of the 70th week.[14] About the half point of the 70th week, about the time when the 2 witnesses finish their testimony[15], the 2 witnesses are killed by the beast, the son of destruction[16], that came up out of the abyss.[17] There is no evidence that the 2 witnesses, that is, the 144000 firstfruits who are redeemed from among men, will all be transformed, but neither all the 144000 firstfruits will die. Many saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit will die[18], but among them, there are those who will be transformed after being nourished at the prepared place. If the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit who are nourished in the prepared place, cannot endure the great tribulation and will all die, then why would they have been nourished in the prepared place in the first place?[19] Among the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, there will certainly be some who will be transformed without seeing death. I do not think that there will be those who will be transformed only among the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, and that there will be no one who will be transformed among the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men. Although the above statement is recorded only the fact that the 2 witnesses will die and be resurrected, there will be some who will be transformed among the 144000 firstfruits who are redeemed from among men, just as there will be those who will be transformed among the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit.
 There will be saints who will die from refusing to worship the beast among the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit. And there will be saints who will be nourished in the prepared place and be transformed at the end of the great tribulation among the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit. And there will be those who will die at the end of the great tribulation after smashing the armies of the beast among the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men. And there will be those who will be transformed at the end of the great tribulation after smashing the armies of the beast among the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men. However, since it is said that the 2 witnesses will prophesy for 1260 days, I think there will probably not be any 2 witnesses, that is, the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men, who die before the end of the 42 months of the period of the reign of the beast.


[1] Rev.7:2 I saw another angel ascend from the sunrise, having the seal of the living God. He cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to harm the earth and the sea, saying, "Don't harm the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, until we have sealed the bondservants of our God on their foreheads!" I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel:

[2] Rev.14:3 They sing a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the one hundred forty-four thousand, those who had been redeemed out of the earth. These are those who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are those who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed by Jesus from among men, the first fruits to God and to the Lamb.

[3] Rev.9:12 The first woe is past. Behold, there are still two woes coming after this. The sixth angel sounded. I heard a voice from the horns of the golden altar which is before God, saying to the sixth angel who had one trumpet, "Free the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates!"

[4] Rev.12:6 The woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that there they may nourish her one thousand two hundred sixty days.

[5] Rev.14:3 They sing a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the one hundred forty-four thousand, those who had been redeemed out of the earth. These are those who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are those who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These were redeemed by Jesus from among men, the first fruits to God and to the Lamb.

[6] Rev.14:1 I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him a number, one hundred forty-four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.

[7] Rev.9:4 They were told that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those men who don't have God's seal on their foreheads.

[8] Rev.13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given to him to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived. It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn't worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, so that they should give them marks on their right hand, or on their forehead;

[9] Rev.12:11 They overcame him because of the Lamb's blood, and because of the word of their testimony. They didn't love their life, even to death.

[10] Rev.20:4 I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn't worship the beast nor his image, and didn't receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived, and reigned with Christ for the thousand years. The rest of the dead didn't live until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

[11] 1Cor.15:47 The first man is of the earth, made of dust. The second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the one made of dust, such are those who are also made of dust; and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. As we have borne the image of those made of dust, let's also bear the image of the heavenly.

[12] 1Cor.15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

[13] 1Cor.15:45 So also it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However that which is spiritual isn't first, but that which is natural, then that which is spiritual.

[14] Rev.11:3 I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands, standing before the Lord of the earth.

[15] Dan.9:27 He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week(view2:for half of the week) he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations [shall come] one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall [wrath] be poured out on the desolate.

  Matt.24:15 "When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

[16] 2Thess.2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God.

[17] Rev.11:7 When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.

[18] Rev.13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn't worship the image of the beast to be killed.

[19] Rev.12:14 Two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, so that she might be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. The serpent spewed water out of his mouth after the woman like a river, that he might cause her to be carried away by the stream. The earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river which the dragon spewed out of his mouth.https://youtu.be/AupisuARmgQ?feature=shared