Are future overcomers who will overcome the beasts also harmed by locusts? | |
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Premise1: The overcomers are the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit who comes as the early rain, and the sealed 144000 who are redeemed from among men, are the firstfruits who received God the Holy Spirit who comes even as the latter rain. Premise2: Only 144000 receive the seal to be the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men. Premise3: It is assumed that the 4 angels holding the 4 winds (or the 4 winds themselves) that appear after the 6th seal is broken, and the 4 angels of Euphrates who are released from their bonds after the 6th trumpet is sounded, refer to the same type of angels who raise the beasts. |
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When the Lamb breaks the 6th seal, the seal is sealed[1], and when the 5th angel sounds the trumpet, locusts come out from the abyss and harm the unsealed.[2] The beasts rise after the 6th trumpet is sounded and the 4 angels of Euphrates are released.[3] The 144000 are the firstfruits who are redeemed from among men[4], and the future overcomers who will overcome the beasts are the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit.[5] After breaking the 6th seal, only the 144000 firstfruits are sealed.[6] Then, aren't the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, sealed? After the 6th seal is broken, only the scene where the 144000 firstfruits are sealed is shown, and the scene where the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit are sealed is not shown. However, since God the Holy Spirit is basically the seal of the saints[7], it cannot be said that the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit are not sealed just because the scene of the sealing did not appear. If this seal on the 144000 means the seal that makes the sealed saints avoid tribulation, then only the sealed 144000 will avoid tribulation. Although God the Holy Spirit is the seal of salvation for both the 144000 firstfruits and the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit[8], it can be seen that God the Holy Spirit becomes the seal of escaping even tribulation only to the sealed firstfruits. The sealed 144000 will certainly avoid the harm of locusts.[9] Then, will the locusts which only harm the unsealed, harm the future overcomers who will overcome the beasts?[10] If only the 144000 can avoid the harm of locusts, even the overcomers who will overcome the beasts, may suffer from scorpion torment which cannot die at this time for 5 months. Although these saints did not receive the seal that the 144000 firstfruits have received, these are those who have the firstfruits of the Spirit. The saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit are also those who are basically sealed with God the Holy Spirit and they are future overcomers who will overcome the beasts. The saints who are sealed with God the Holy Spirit, are still avoiding suffering.[11] |
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View 1: will be harmed | View 2: will not be harmed |
رؤيا 6:5 وَعِنْدَمَا فَكَّ الْحَمَلُ الْخَتْمَ الثَّالِثَ سَمِعْتُ الْكَائِنَ الثَّالِثَ يُنَادِي: «تَعَالَ!» فَرَأَيْتُ حِصَاناً أَسْوَدَ، يَحْمِلُ رَاكِبُهُ مِيزَاناً بِيَدِهِ. رؤيا 6:6 وَسَمِعْتُ صَوْتاً مِنْ بَيْنِ الْكَائِنَاتِ الْحَيَّةِ الأَرْبَعَةِ يَقُولُ: «كَيْلَةُ قَمْحٍ بِدِينَارٍ، وَثَلاَثُ كَيْلاَتِ شَعِيرٍ بِدِينَارٍ. أَمَّا الزَّيْتُ وَالْخَمْرُ فَلاَ تَمَسَّهُمَا». |
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The olive oil and the wine can avoid only famine. The fact that the famine can be avoided does not guarantee that even the harm of locusts will be avoided. Just because we received the guarantee of salvation, we cannot say that we will be able to avoid even tribulation. | It is commanded not to harm the olive oil and the wine. After the Lamb breaks the 6th seal, the 144000 are sealed. At this time, it is before the breaking of the 6th seal, so there is no seal itself that enables the saints to avoid the tribulation to come. There are saints who are protected even before being sealed. Therefore, the saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, will also be protected. |
رؤيا 7:2 ثُمَّ رَأَيْتُ مَلاَكاً آخَرَ قَادِماً مِنَ الشَّرْقِ يَحْمِلُ خَتْمَ اللهِ الْحَيِّ، فَنَادَى بِصَوْتٍ عَالٍ الْمَلاَئِكَةَ الأَرْبَعَةَ الَّذِينَ عُهِدَ إِلَيْهِمْ أَنْ يُنْزِلُوا الضَّرَرَ بِالْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ: رؤيا 7:3 «انْتَظِرُوا! لاَ تَضُرُّوا الْبَرَّ وَلاَ الْبَحْرَ وَلاَ الشَّجَرَ، إِلَى أَنْ نَضَعَ خَتْمَ إِلَهِنَا عَلَى جِبَاهِ عَبِيدِهِ». رؤيا 7:4 وَسَمِعْتُ أَنَّ عَدَدَ الْمَخْتُومِينَ، مِئَةُ وَأَرْبَعَةٌ وَأَرْبَعُونَ أَلْفاً، مِنْ جَمِيعِ أَسْبَاطِ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ: |
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If the unsealed who will overcome the beasts in the future, will also avoid the harm of locusts that will harm only the unsealed, then why would God make a distinction between the sealed and the unsealed? | The fact that locusts harm only the unsealed, does not mean that they will harm all the unsealed who have not been sealed like the 144000. Although they did not receive the seal that was given only to the 144000, the saints who are overcoming the beast in this present age, are also sealed with God the Holy Spirit who is coming as the early rain. And they will also avoid harm from locusts. |
رؤيا 11:1 وَأُعْطِيتُ عَصَا قِيَاسٍ، وَأُمِرْتُ أَنْ أَقِيسَ هَيْكَلَ اللهِ وَالْمَذْبَحَ، وَأَنْ أُحْصِيَ عَدَدَ الْمُتَعَبِّدِينَ فِيهِ. رؤيا 11:2 وَقِيلَ لِي: «لاَ تَقِسِ السَّاحَةَ الْخَارِجِيَّةَ لأَنَّهَا خُصِّصَتْ لِلأُمَمِ، وَسَيَدُوسُونَ الْمَدِينَةَ المُقَدَّسَةَ مُدَّةَ اثْنَيْنِ وَأَرْبَعِينَ شَهْراً، رؤيا 11:3 وَلَكِنِّي سَأَمْنَحُ شَاهِدَيَّ أَنْ يَتَنَبَّآ مُدَّةَ أَلْفٍ وَمِئَتَيْنِ وَسِتِّينَ يَوْماً، وَهُمَا يَلْبَسَانِ ثَوْبَيْنِ مِنَ الْوَبَرِ». |
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Even if God protects those who are within the measure from the persecution of the beasts, the measure of those who worship in the temple is only accomplished after the 6th trumpet is sounded. The time when the locusts do harm is when the 5th trumpet is sounded. It means that the harm of locusts has already passed when the measure is made. The measure has not been done yet, God will not protect the saints who have not received the seal that the 144000 are received, as He protects them after the measure. Even the saints who will be measured as true worshipers in the temple after the 6th trumpet is sounded, unless they are not the sealed 144000, they will not be able to avoid the harm of locusts that will come out from the abyss at the time of the 5th trumpet. They are not killed by the locusts. They only suffer.[12] Therefore, future overcomers will not be in a situation where they cannot fight the beasts just because they are harmed by the locusts. Even if they have been harmed by the locusts, they will fight and overcome the beasts that will come out after the 6th trumpet is sounded. For them, the harm of locusts will be just a refinement.[13] |
Those who are harmed by the locusts are those who are in the courtyard outside the temple. Those who will overcome the beast in the future, must be living a life of overcoming the beast even in their present time. Therefore, these too, like the 144000 firstfruits, must be showing their faith in serving the LORD Jesus in the temple. Therefore, they will also be within the range of the measure and will be able to avoid the harm of locusts. In 'the temple, the altar, and the worshipers' which is said to be measured, the 'altar' refers to the golden altar of incense in the temple.[14] There is a golden altar of incense inside the temple and a bronze altar of burnt offering in the courtyard outside the temple. Since the measure only applies to the temple and not the courtyard[15], this altar must be a golden altar of incense. Although the measure begins after the 6th trumpet is sounded, it is presumed that those who worship God in the temple may have already avoided the harm of locusts at the time of the 5th trumpet. Their protection would have already started before the measure. |
رؤيا 3:10 وَلأَنَّكَ حَفِظْتَ كَلِمَتِي وَصَبَرْتَ، فَسَأَحْفَظُكَ أَنَا أَيْضاً مِنْ سَاعَةِ التَّجْرِبَةِ الَّتِي سَتَأْتِي عَلَى الْعَالَمِ أَجْمَعَ لِتُجَرِّبَ السَّاكِنِينَ عَلَى الأَرْضِ. | |
(Assuming that the 1st half of the 70th week is the 42 months of the reign of the beast that will appear after the 6th trumpet is sounded, and the 2nd half of the 70th week is the period of pouring out the 7 plagues after the 7th trumpet is sounded,) Does the promise to keep from the hour of testing mean that the LORD Jesus will save us from the 7 plagues in the 2nd half of the 70th week by the 1st resurrection? Or does it mean that He will save us from the persecution of the beast in the 1st half of the 70th week through the prepared place? Or does it mean that He will save us even from the harm of locusts at the time of the 5th trumpet? We cannot claim. In other words, it cannot be affirmed that the hour of testing which the LORD Jesus promises to keep from, also includes the time when the locusts do harm.[16] | Those who keep the word of patience, will be kept from the hour of testing. The 144000 firstfruits are not the only ones who keep the word of patience. The saints who have the firstfruits of the Spirit who will overcome the beasts in the future, are also martyr witnesses and those who keep the word of patience in their present time. Therefore, they too will be kept from the hour of testing. I believe that this hour of testing includes not only the 7 plagues, but also the persecution of the beasts and all the tribulation that preceded it.[17] Christians may share in the sufferings of Christ for glory.[18] But the harm of locusts which only the unsealed will be harmed from, is not the sufferings for the sake of Christ. |
[1] رؤيا 6:12 ثُمَّ نَظَرْتُ، فَرَأَيْتُ الْحَمَلَ يَفُكُّ الْخَتْمَ السَّادِسَ، وَإِذَا الأَرْضُ قَدْ زُلْزِلَتْ زِلْزَالاً عَظِيماً، وَالشَّمْسُ اسْوَدَّتْ فَصَارَتْ كَخِرْقَةٍ مِنْ شَعْرٍ، وَصَارَ الْقَمَرُ أَحْمَرَ كَالدَّمِ،
رؤيا 6:13 وَسَقَطَتْ نُجُومُ السَّمَاءِ عَلَى الأَرْضِ كَمَا تَطْرَحُ شَجَرَةُ التِّينِ ثِمَارَهَا الْفَجَّةَ، إِذَا هَزَّتْهَا رِيحٌ عَاصِفَةٌ.
رؤيا 6:14 وَطُوِيَتِ السَّمَاءُ كَمَا تُطْوَى لِفَافَةٌ مِنْ وَرَقٍ، فَتَزَحْزَحَتِ الْجِبَالُ وَالْجُزُرُ كُلُّهَا مِنْ مَوَاضِعِهَا.
[2] رؤيا 9:1 وَلَمَّا نَفَخَ الْمَلاَكُ الْخَامِسُ فِي بُوقِهِ، رَأَيْتُ نَجْماً قَدْ هَوَى مِنَ السَّمَاءِ إِلَى الأَرْضِ، وَأُعْطِيَ مِفْتَاحَ الْهَاوِيَةِ السَّحِيقَةِ.
[3] رؤيا 9:12 انْقَضَى الْوَيْلُ الأَوَّلُ، وَهُنَاكَ وَيْلاَنِ آخَرَانِ قَادِمَانِ!
رؤيا 9:13 وَعِنْدَمَا نَفَخَ الْمَلاَكُ السَّادِسُ فِي بُوقِهِ، سَمِعْتُ صَوْتاً آتِياً مِنَ الْقُرُونِ الأَرْبَعَةِ لِمَذْبَحِ الذَّهَبِ الْمَوْجُودِ أَمَامَ اللهِ،
رؤيا 9:14 يَقُولُ لِلْمَلاَكِ السَّادِسِ الَّذِي يَحْمِلُ الْبُوقَ: «أَطْلِقِ الْمَلاَئِكَةَ الأَرْبَعَةَ الْمُقَيَّدِينَ عِنْدَ نَهْرِ الْفُرَاتِ الْكَبِيرِ».
رؤيا 9:15 وَكَانَ هَؤُلاَءِ الْمَلاَئِكَةُ الأَرْبَعَةُ مُجَهَّزِينَ اسْتِعْدَاداً لِهذِهِ السَّاعَةِ وَالْيَوْمِ وَالشَّهْرِ وَالسَّنَةِ، فَأُطْلِقُوا لِيَقْتُلُوا ثُلْثَ الْبَشَرِ.
[4] رؤيا 14:3 وَكَانُوا يُنْشِدُونَ تَرْتِيلَةً جَدِيدَةً أَمَامَ عَرْشِ اللهِ، وَأَمَامَ الْكَائِنَاتِ الْحَيَّةِ الأَرْبَعَةِ وَالشُّيُوخِ. وَلَمْ يَسْتَطِعْ أَحَدٌ أَنْ يَتَعَلَّمَ هذِهِ التَّرْتِيلَةَ إِلاَّ الْمِئَةُ وَالأَرْبَعَةُ وَالأَرْبَعُونَ أَلْفاً الْمُشْتَرَوْنَ مِنَ الأَرْضِ،
رؤيا 14:4 فَهَؤُلاَءِ لَمْ يُنَجِّسُوا أَنْفُسَهُمْ مَعَ النِّسَاءِ لأَنَّهُمْ أَطْهَارٌ، وَهُمْ يَتْبَعُونَ الْحَمَلَ حَيْثُمَا ذَهَبَ، وَقَدْ تَمَّ شِرَاؤُهُمْ مِنْ بَيْنِ النَّاسِ بَاكُورَةً لِلهِ، وَلِلْحَمَلِ،
[5] رومية 8:23 وَلَيْسَ هِيَ وَحْدَهَا، بَلْ أَيْضاً نَحْنُ الَّذِينَ لَنَا بَاكُورَةُ الرُّوحِ، نَحْنُ أَنْفُسُنَا نَئِنُّ فِي قَرَارَةِ نُفُوسِنَا مُتَرَقِّبِينَ إِعْلاَنَ بُنُوَّتِنَا بِافْتِدَاءِ أَجْسَادِنَا.
[6] رؤيا 7:3 «انْتَظِرُوا! لاَ تَضُرُّوا الْبَرَّ وَلاَ الْبَحْرَ وَلاَ الشَّجَرَ، إِلَى أَنْ نَضَعَ خَتْمَ إِلَهِنَا عَلَى جِبَاهِ عَبِيدِهِ».
رؤيا 7:4 وَسَمِعْتُ أَنَّ عَدَدَ الْمَخْتُومِينَ، مِئَةُ وَأَرْبَعَةٌ وَأَرْبَعُونَ أَلْفاً، مِنْ جَمِيعِ أَسْبَاطِ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ:
[7] أفسس 1:13 وَفِيهِ أَنْتُمْ أَيْضاً (وَضَعْتُمْ رَجَاءَكُمْ) إِذْ سَمِعْتُمْ كَلِمَةَ الْحَقِّ، أَيْ الإِنْجِيلَ الَّذِي فِيهِ خَلاَصُكُمْ؛ كَذَلِكَ فِيهِ أَيْضاً خُتِمْتُمْ، إِذْ آمَنْتُمْ، بِالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ الْمَوْعُودِ،
[8] أفسس 4:30 وَلاَ تُحْزِنُوا رُوحَ اللهِ، الرُّوحَ الْقُدُسَ الَّذِي بِهِ خُتِمْتُمْ لِيَوْمِ الْفِدَاءِ.
[9] رؤيا 9:4 وَأُمِرَ أَلاَّ يَضُرَّ عُشْبَ الأَرْضِ وَلاَ مَزْرُوعَاتِهَا وَلاَ أَشْجَارَهَا بَلْ فَقَطْ جَمِيعَ مَنْ لَيْسَ عَلَى جِبَاهِهِمْ خَتْمُ اللهِ،
[10] رؤيا 9:5 فَيُعَذِّبُهُمْ دُونَ أَنْ يَقْتُلَهُمْ، مُدَّةَ خَمْسَةِ أَشْهُرٍ. وَالأَلَمُ الَّذِي يُسَبِّبُهُ يُشْبِهُ أَلَمَ لَدْغَةِ الْعَقْرَبِ.
رؤيا 9:6 وَفِي أَثْنَاءِ تِلْكَ الشُّهُورِ يُحَاوِلُ النَّاسُ أَنْ يَتَخَلَّصُوا مِنْ حَيَاتِهِمْ فَلاَ يَقْدِرُونَ! وَيَتَمَنَّوْنَ أَنْ يَمُوتُوا، لَكِنَّ الْمَوْتَ يَهْرُبُ مِنْهُمْ.
[11] متى 12:28 وَلَكِنْ إِنْ كُنْتُ بِرُوحِ اللهِ أَطْرُدُ الشَّيَاطِينَ، فَقَدْ أَقْبَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ مَلَكُوتُ اللهِ!
[12] رؤيا 9:5 فَيُعَذِّبُهُمْ دُونَ أَنْ يَقْتُلَهُمْ، مُدَّةَ خَمْسَةِ أَشْهُرٍ. وَالأَلَمُ الَّذِي يُسَبِّبُهُ يُشْبِهُ أَلَمَ لَدْغَةِ الْعَقْرَبِ.
[13] دانيال 12:10 كَثِيرُونَ يَتَطَهَّرُونَ وَيَتَنَقَّوْنَ وَيُمَحَّصُونَ بِالتَّجَارِبِ، أَمَّا الأَشْرَارُ فَيَرْتَكِبُونَ شَرّاً وَلاَ يَفْهَمُونَ. إِنَّمَا ذَوُو الْفِطْنَةِ يُدْرِكُونَ.
[14] لوقا 1:10 وَكَانَ جُمْهُورُ الشَّعْبِ جَمِيعاً يُصَلُّونَ خَارِجاً فِي وَقْتِ إِحْرَاقِ الْبَخُورِ.
لوقا 1:11 فَظَهَرَ لَهُ مَلاَكٌ مِنْ عِنْدِ الرَّبِّ وَاقِفاً عَنْ يَمِينِ مَذْبَحِ الْبَخُورِ.
[15] رؤيا 11:1 وَأُعْطِيتُ عَصَا قِيَاسٍ، وَأُمِرْتُ أَنْ أَقِيسَ هَيْكَلَ اللهِ وَالْمَذْبَحَ، وَأَنْ أُحْصِيَ عَدَدَ الْمُتَعَبِّدِينَ فِيهِ.
رؤيا 11:2 وَقِيلَ لِي: «لاَ تَقِسِ السَّاحَةَ الْخَارِجِيَّةَ لأَنَّهَا خُصِّصَتْ لِلأُمَمِ، وَسَيَدُوسُونَ الْمَدِينَةَ المُقَدَّسَةَ مُدَّةَ اثْنَيْنِ وَأَرْبَعِينَ شَهْراً،
[16] بطرس1 4:12 أَيُّهَا الأَحِبَّاءُ، لاَ تَسْتَغْرِبُوا نَارَ الاضْطِهَادِ الْمُشْتَعِلَةَ عِنْدَكُمْ لاِخْتِبَارِكُمْ وَكَأَنَّ أَمْراً غَرِيباً قَدْ أَصَابَكُمْ!
بطرس1 4:13 وَإِنَّمَا افْرَحُوا: لأَنَّكُمْ كَمَا تُشَارِكُونَ الْمَسِيحَ فِي الآلاَمِ الآنَ، لاَبُدَّ أَنْ تَفْرَحُوا بِمُشَارَكَتِهِ فِي الابْتِهَاجِ عِنْدَ ظُهُورِ مَجْدِهِ.
أعمال الرسل 14:22 وَفِي هذِهِ الأَمَاكِنِ كُلِّهَا كَانَا يُشَدِّدَانِ عَزِيمَةَ التَّلاَمِيذِ، وَيَحُثَّانِهِمْ عَلَى الثَّبَاتِ فِي الإِيمَانِ، مُؤَكِّدَيْنِ لَهُمْ أَنَّ دُخُولَ مَلَكُوتِ اللهِ يَقْتَضِي أَنْ نُقَاسِيَ صُعُوبَاتٍ كَثِيرَةً.
[17] بطرس2 2:9 وَهَكَذَا نَرَى أَنَّ الرَّبَّ يَعْرِفُ أَنْ يُنْقِذَ الأَتْقِيَاءَ مِنَ الْمِحْنَةِ، وَيَحْفَظَ الأَشْرَارَ مَحْبُوسِينَ لِيَحْكُمَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِالْعِقَابِ فِي يَوْمِ الدَّيْنُونَةِ.
المزامير 121:7 يَقِيكَ الرَّبُّ مِنْ كُلِّ شَرٍّ. يَقِي نَفْسَكَ.
[18] رومية 8:17 وَمَا دُمْنَا أَوْلاَداً، فَنَحْنُ أَيْضاً وَارِثُونَ؛ وَرَثَةُ اللهِ وَشُرَكَاءُ الْمَسِيحِ فِي الإِرْثِ. وَإِنْ كُنَّا الآنَ نُشَارِكُهُ فِي مُقَاسَاةِ الأَلَمِ، فَلأَنَّنَا سَوْفَ نُشَارِكُهُ أَيْضاً فِي التَّمَتُّعِ بِالْمَجْدِ.
رومية 8:18 فَإِنِّي مُقْتَنِعٌ بِأَنَّ آلاَمَ الزَّمَانِ الْحَاضِرِ لَيْسَتْ شَيْئاً إِذَا قِيسَتْ بِالْمَجْدِ الآتِي الَّذِي سَيُعْلَنُ فِينَا.
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